Florida Psychoanalytic Center

Understanding Primitive Mental States Musical Mondays with Francis Grier Fall 2022 – Spring 2023 3:00-4:30pm EST

May 16, 2022

Dates: Mondays, September 19, October 17, November 21, and December 12, 2022, and January 16, February 13, March 20, May 15, and June 19, 2023

This ongoing Listening Seminar to the Musicality in the intersubjective patient-analyst couple, focuses on the containing function of the analytic encounter through the non-verbal communicative aspects of both the patient and analyst’s inner worlds, the rhythm, cadence, primitive umbilical connection of the telephone. This seminar will teach the Kleinian technique of formulating dynamic interpretations of the patient’s inner world and its objects, through case presentations and contemporary journal and seminal analytic papers.

Francis Grier is the Editor-in-Chief of the International Journal of Psychoanalysis, a Training Analyst and Supervisor of the British Psychoanalytical Society, and a Member of Tavistock Relationships. He is also a world-renowned composer, academic musicologist, and musician. Francis Grier teaches and supervises in private practice in London, working with individuals and couples. He has a private psychoanalytic practice in London, and has succeeded Edna O’Shaughnessy in leading a seminar for psychotherapists working in the Fitzjohns Unit in the Tavistock Clinic with patients who would not normally have access to psychoanalytic treatment.

Susan N Finkelstein, LCSW is a Training analyst at the Contemporary Freudian Society and Faculty/Member of IPTAR. She developed Understanding Primitive Mental States, a study group where she teaches: The Internal World and Its Objects, The Claustro-agoraphobic Dilemma, Clinical Klein, The Not-I Patient. At the APsaA she co-chairs a discussion group with Nasir Ilahi on Schizoid Modes in Borderline and Narcissistic Patients. She is an Associate Editor of the International Journal of Psychoanalysis, and presents and publishes on claustro-agoraphobia. She is in private practice in NYC in psychoanalysis, psychotherapy, couple therapy and clinical supervision.

Learning Objectives:
1) Participants will be able to define listening to the temperature, rhythm and tone of the patient’s non-verbal communication in the analytic session.
2) Participants will formulate Kleinian interpretations of unconscious phantasy and listening with the third ear and eye of the analytic dyad.


Grier, F. (2019) Musicality in the consulting room. International Journal of Psychoanalysis 100:827-851

Cheshire, N.M. (1996). The Empire Of The Ear: Freud’s Problem With Music. Int. J. Psycho-Anal.,
Vermorel, M. Vermorel, H.
(1986). Was Freud a Romantic?. Int. R. Psycho-Anal., 13:15-37.

Barale, F. Minazzi, V. (2008). Off the Beaten
Track: Freud, Sound and Music. Statement of a Problem and Some
Historico-Critical Notes. Int. J. Psycho-Anal., 89(5):937-957.

Johan Norman:Transformations of early infantile experiences: A
6-month-old in psychoanalysis.

Birksted-Breen, D. (2009). ‘Reverberation
Time’, Dreaming and the Capacity to Dream. Int. J. Psycho-Anal., 90(1):

Birksted-Breen, D. (2012). Taking Time: The Tempo of
Psychoanalysis. Int. J. Psycho-Anal., 93(4):819-835.

Pickering, J. (2015). Acoustic Resonance at the Dawn of Life: Musical Fundamentals of the Psychoanalytic Relationship. J. Anal. Psychol., 60(5):618-641.

Anzieu, D. (1979). The Sound Image of the Self. Int. R. Psycho-Anal.,

Maiello, S. (1995). The Sound-Object: A Hypothesis about Prenatal Auditory Experience and Memory. J. Child Psychother., 21(1):23-41.

Clinical with adult:
Rayner, E. (1992). Matching, Attunement and the Psychoanalytic Dialogue. Int. J. Psycho-Anal., 73:39-54.

Operas (& Beethoven):
Beethoven and gender. Bi-sexuality. Core complex.
Rigoletto. Perversion & voyeurism.
La Traviata. PS & D Oedipus situations. Grunberger’s Monad.

Mozart: Betrayal and forgiveness.
R, Rusbridger:
Otello. Projective identification in music.
Don Giovanni. Giovanni as essentially empty, a kind of
dynamic black hole.

Grier, F. (2021) The music of the drives, and the music of perversion: reflections on a dream of jealous theft. International Journal of Psychoanalysis 102:448-463

Mollach, S. & Trevarthen, C. The human nature of music (2018) Frontiers in Psychology
We will also focus on the theme of betrayal and forgiveness.

Continuing Education Credits:
Susan N. Finkelstein, LCSW, PC is recognized by the New York State Education Department’s State Board for Social Work as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed social workers #0262. CE credits are granted to participants with documented attendance of the entire program. No partial credits will be offered. It is the responsibility of the participants seeking CE credits to comply with these requirements. Upon completion of this program and evaluation form, participants will be granted 13.5 CE credits per session.

Program Fee: $1215
Participation is limited to 10 registrants. No cancellation or refund, except for a medical emergency.

To Register:
Please contact Susan Finkelstein to register and make payment arrangements.

For additional information, please contact Susan Finkelstein, Program Director
(917-838-3266 or susanfcsw@aol.com)